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Duncan Campbell and George Lakoff 

The Evolutionary Challenge of the 21st Century for the Political Mind

George Lakoff

Duncan Campbell, visionary conversationalist and host of the internationally acclaimed Living Dialogues program and George Lakoff, founder of the progressive think tank the Rockridge Institute engage in a very timely and stimulating dialogue on the evolutionary challenge of the 21st century. 

The matters George and I dialogue about have universal implications to any country and political system, even though we are here focused on examples from the upcoming “tipping (or toppling) point” 2008 election in the United States.  You will find it interesting no matter which country you live in because the archetypal structure of the human brain, as we know, is something we share across the globe and that really is the point of these programs.

We are all called to go beyond the initial adolescent “breaking away” from the oppressive rule of Mother Church and Father Sovereign in the 18th Century European Enlightenment through the celebration of “Reason”, which used the printing press and widespread “democratized” dissemination of knowledge as a path to empowering the “middle class” and “the people”. We need now to make a more subtle leap of consciousness in the 21st Century.  In our present latter stage adolescent polarization we are stuck in rationalized secular and religious “identity” ideologies and estranged from our early heritage of empathy, with an over-emphasis on expressing our identity through exclusivism and dominance rather than cooperation and co-creative collaboration. Instead we are called to move into a nurturing, mature politics based on self-confident, not self-assertive, transpartisan dialogue.

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In Part 2 of our dialogue, George and I recap how our political choices are influenced by the imprint of our early socialization in our families of origin, and the subsequent acculturation we receive in our education (or lack of it) and in our communities. As George describes it, our early neurological imprints from our family lead us to think of political parties as a “family” (an idea often reaffirmed by the language of politicians themselves). The Republican Party in the U.S. he sees as associated with the “strict father” parent and the Democratic Party associated with the “nurturing parents” archetype (belittled and caricatured by the Republicans, abetted by a compliant and somewhat cowed media, as the “Mommy” or “nanny” party, falsely represented as supposedly taxing the “hard-working” middle class and doling out monies and welfare to the undeserving poor.)

Because of these neurological imprints – manipulated by negative and misleading ads, including outright deliberate deception – many voters do not vote their economic interests based on “the issues” (as one would expect from a Maslow hierarchy of external needs psychological model, based on “kitchen table” issues of food, shelter, and jobs). Instead, many voters are emotionally triggered and duped by fabricated wedge distractions into voting based on fear, anxiety, and compliance with authority – often against their own interests and that of their children and grandchildren – in order to reaffirm their ”identity” within a group.

The final section is devoted to the dominant “narratives” that are at play between Obama and McCain, what they represent in the collective American psyche, and how they relate to the evolutionary challenge and initiation beyond adolescent group mind we are all confronted with. Will this election be a Tipping Point and a leap forward, or a Toppling Point in a great fall backward.

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In Part 3 of the dialogue -- recorded September 12, 2008 after the Democratic and Republican Party Conventions -- George and I update and expand considerably on the “narrative” themes of the campaign, why the Republicans say that the campaign is not about “issues” but about “personalities”, and how that approach derived from a corporate marketing strategy begun by Nixon and firmly established as Republican precedent by Reagan.  Understanding the modes of manipulation of these “framings” – unconscious to the ordinary voter and not illuminated by the media – is a key to understanding the election as it proceeds, including the formal debates between the candidates.  The collective psyche of the U.S., like that of the planet, is at a critical evolutionary turning point.  As observed by C. G. Jung, if we bring the elements at work in the unconscious to awareness, as we do in participating in these kinds of dialogues, then we open the possibility of fulfilling our higher purpose and destiny, rather than enduring an unconscious fate.

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“I’m George Lakoff, and I’m here on Living Dialogues, having a great talk.  The talk we’ve been having is exactly the kind of dialogue that we need in this country.”

George Lakoff

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